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TOPIC: IELTS test too hard if we want diversity of cultures in our children's education

IELTS test too hard if we want diversity of cultures in our children's education 3 weeks 6 days ago #20

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They will need to “decolonise” the Education Council. Their thinking is too dominated by white English traditions. It is the responsibility of the Education Council to ensure the presence of as many minority ethnic teachers as possible. Might I add a target of 15% men would not go amiss either. We should not let Britain’s imperial past dominate in this day and age. One of our staff has got her NZ. Early Childhood Diploma of Teaching but is refused a chance to upgrade like all other NZers have had the chance to do. Our other teacher has got her NZ Degree in Early Childhood they have done everything they possibly can to get qualified getting as far as they could around the rule of 7 in IELTS. Thousands has been spent in tutors and doing IELTS tests but no luck. This teacher now only needs a few points in comprehension part of IELTS. They have been frozen out of being teachers by not being allowed to be provisionally qualified teachers till they get their IELTS I don’t think I could pass it. These staff members are paid minimum wages, while their work load is all that of a teacher for 4 or 6 years now. Even in Australia they are not so mean. Something has to give before they have no job at all when 100% qualified comes in.

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IELTS test to hard if we want diversity of cultures in our children's education. 2 weeks 5 days ago #44

I beg to differ with your opinion.

As early childhood teachers, we set the platform to model oral language for tamariki in our care. I personally cringe when I hear a mat-time being taken, or a child is addressed for whatever reason, with broken English that I sometimes find difficult to comprehend myself.

We set standards, and there have to be standards for language to be understood by the children around us. On that note, I have often wondered how a number of qualified teachers have passed a written university exam taken in English when in my opinion, their oral language has been way below what I would expect from a teacher.

Let's not bring the Imperial past into this discussion. Official languages in this country are te reo Māori, English, and NZ sign language. If I cannot speak at least one of them well enough to be understood, I'd rather not be a teacher.

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IELTS test to hard if we want diversity of cultures in our children's education. 2 weeks 5 days ago #45

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Cyrus this is an immigrant country. The Education Ministry brings in Irish speech teachers they don’t sound like Kiwis. The children need to learn and listen to accented people for they are everywhere in NZ. If a person’s ability to speak English is that bad you question how they were employed in the first place. If you listened to the English from a Cockney or the dialect from Liverpool you would not understand then either. Yet they speak English for that is where they came from. Children in NZ need to identify with all races and cultures so that is the mix of people we need in ECE.

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IELTS test to hard if we want diversity of cultures in our children's education. 2 weeks 4 days ago #46

I agree with you. In some instances, I do question how teachers were employed, or even how they got through their University exams if they cannot speak and be understood in the English language.

Accents are not the issue at all. Language is expressed correctly, and as such, picked up by the children. I totally agree with your point that "children need to learn and listen to accented people for they are everywhere in NZ".

However, I firmly believe that as teachers, we need to model language that is correctly spoken for children's oral language development in ECE.

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IELTS test to hard if we want diversity of cultures in our children's education. 2 weeks 3 days ago #48

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Imagine if you had to sit these IELTS tests at level 7 in the first language of this country Maori. That would scare the hell out of us and the cost is in the 300s. Some of our teachers have to go for it 3 or 4 times. Level 7 is way up there at the end of University level English. I never did pass an English exam so doubt I would get IELTS.

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